No Atheists Allowed: Dawkins Event Banned by Michigan Country Club

Richard Dawkins Event Banned by
Michigan Country Club

The Wyndgate Country Club in Rochester Hills, MI, cancels Center for Inquiry–Michigan event with biologist Richard Dawkins because of his atheist philosophy.

Richard DawkinsPrejudice against atheists manifested itself again when The Wyndgate Country Club in Rochester Hills, Michigan (outside of Detroit), cancelled an event with scientist and author Richard Dawkins after learning of Dawkins’s views on religion. The event had been arranged by the Center for Inquiry–Michigan (CFI), an advocacy group for secularism and science, and the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science.

The Wyndgate terminated the agreement after the owner saw an October 5th interview with Dawkins on The O’Reilly Factor in which Dawkins discussed his new book, The Magic of Reality: How We Know What’s Really True.

"Religious discrimination..." quoteIn a phone call to CFI–Michigan Assistant Director Jennifer Beahan, The Wyndgate’s representative explained that the owner did not wish to associate with individuals such as Dawkins, or his philosophies.

Although privately owned, The Wyndgate facilities are open to the public for special events and occasions. According to Title II of the Federal Civil Rights Law of 1964, “open to the public” means “all persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.”

After learning of the owner’s last-minute refusal to allow Dawkins to speak, CFI–Michigan asked the owner to reconsider his position, but this attempt to resolve the issue amicably was met with silence. The sold-out event, scheduled for Wednesday, October 12, will now be held at a different venue.

“It’s important to understand that discrimination based on a person’s religion—or lack thereof—is legally equivalent to discriminating against a person because of his or her race,” said Jeff Seaver, executive director of CFI–Michigan. “This action by The Wyndgate illustrates the kind of bias and bigotry that nonbelievers encounter all the time. It’s exactly why organizations like CFI and the Richard Dawkins Foundation are needed: to help end the stigma attached to being a nonbeliever.”

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My morning.

I see that the stock markets are making great gains.  There is nothing that can be sustaining that, so it isn't real.  When it crashes, trillions more will be wiped out – just as they have been every week lately.  That facilitates more borrowing.  People will borrow themselves out of debt until they crash.  I know.  I'm doing it too.  But I have a reason.

I go outside and close my eyes.  I don't want to hear sound bites about 'mobs' or the DWTS re-runs from down the hall. I never want to hear that shit again, but there is nowhere left that people don't intrude.

I hear things no one else hears.  No, not voices in my head.  I hear a dove calling that it has found some food. I can't see it but I know what kind of bird it is and what it's saying.  What do doves eat?  Grain mostly, but they will eat grain products and most birds are omnivores.  Anyway, it's family arrives and they peck at the grain. I don't feed bread crumbs to birds.  It's full of fat and sugar and things birds don't need.  Or people.

I hear more birds.  People don't stop talking long enough to hear birds or to listen to what they are saying.  But animals talk for a reason – they don't gossip unless they are playing.  Dr. Phil isn't going to tell you anything you need to know.  A bird might if you would listen for a minute.  I want a dog.  I guess what I really want is a full-time friend.  But I can't have a dog where I live. 

This is the world I want to live in.  I know these are street people and 'hippies'.  I don't care.  I see what's coming.  It's a storm.  It ain't pretty.  And I'll have to arm my silly old ass up and ride for my countrymen…until I fall off.  But it's either that or go out on the icepack and wave a sign saying “I'm not bear food” until a bear eats me.  Peaceful protest is only a good idea until the bear comes.  

From Karl Denninger

So Who's The Candidate Millions Can Support?

It's simply, really.

I want a candidate with two positions:
STOP THE LOOTING AND START PROSECUTING. No, we cannot “move on.” Those who committed frauds of various sorts need to go to prison and those who do so in the future need to go join them. Period.

The Constitution is a written document of enumerated powers and limited government. That which is not explicitly permitted in that document is forbidden the Federal Government.

That's it. Two conditions.

Who is it?

Making banking a public utility

Economist Michael Hudson interviewed on TheRealNews (10 min)

The points Hudson makes in this short interview are in many ways similar to the ones made at the Automatic Earth; namely it's all very well to protest the financial system, the banksters etc. but to expect their behavior to change in response is not realistic. They will do whatever they are allowed to do. If the last three decades saw a steady de-criminalization of fraud, the fraud can't be expected to stop on its own just by the force of people's discontent.

Certainly, expecting the industry will police itself is like expecting a hyena to restrain its appetite when you let it loose among a flock of sheep. Expecting that people protesting the banksters directly will have any effect on their behavior is like expecting the hyena to change its habits when the sheep start crying: You bad hyena!  The hyena will just roll on the ground laughing.

Banking, Hudson says, is a public utility, and nothing will change unless it's treated and regulated as such.

Washingtonsblog summary of what Hudson says on the interview:

Prominent economist Michael Hudson explains that the financial system is so fundamentally broken and corrupt that the message of the Occupy Wall Street protesters can’t be reduced down to a handful of “technocratic fixes”.

Hudson also said:

  • Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Citibank are crime gangs (Background)

  • Obama is backing de-criminalization of fraud (Background)

  • Obama doesn’t want to create jobs; instead, he wants to reduce wages by 30% (Background)

  • Geithner is just a bank lobbyist, and shouldn’t be in charge of treasury (Background here and here)